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January 15th, 2002, 03:46 PM
#11
Inactive Member
truer basbeall? that means like they did it back in the day? go back to the tiny little gloves and underhand toss too. Oh wait, game was improved! it changed. Change does not have to be bad.
I thing it does lower what 500 HRs mean. So what? raise expectations! Push limits. have fun.
You old fuddy duddies want things the way they were. Have some fun! enjoy what you have.
on extra roster spot do we assume that would be a pitcher? this means we could have kept steve woodard?
BTW who lost roster spot when we signed wholers?
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January 15th, 2002, 03:50 PM
#12
Inactive Member
Sorry Sam, this old fuddy duddy enjoys NL baseball much more than AL.
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January 15th, 2002, 05:48 PM
#13
Inactive Member
You guys are living in the past! The DH is going nowhere. It has permeated every level of youth and adult recreation leagues.
It involves more people.
The DH may be the last bastion of difference between the two leagues with umpires now working both leagues. Most ideas of contrasting styles of play have become myth and old wives tails. Remove the DH and the NL now scores nore runs per game and more HR's per game than the AL! The new extreme hitters parks (Coors, Enron) have pretty much eliminated an NL style of play, while new extreme pitchers parks (Safeco, Comerica) have contributed to less offense in the AL. Without the DH the 2 leagues are now virtually indistinguishable. If you desire that than there is really no reason to continue the discussion. I want the two leagues to be different. I don't like the NL and I don't want to.
Think what you want but the ONLY reason the owners talk of eliminating the DH is the high average salaries DH's command compared to that player being a bench player in NL. They don't care one bit about traditionalism and they would sell out any attempt to eliminate the DH for concessions from the player's union. It's just another bargaining chip.
ps-Name me some of those 39-40 yr old regular DH's making 8 million. Not too many. Another myth.
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[This message has been edited by *TR (edited January 15, 2002).]
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January 16th, 2002, 04:05 AM
#14
Inactive Member
Korrekt, was der Kaiser sagte.
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January 16th, 2002, 04:44 AM
#15
Inactive Member
I think it's time to eliminate the DH also. It's sad to see 39, 40 year old players that can't play defense, get their 3 abs a game, and making 8+ million per.
It's also sad that a guy like Charlie hates managing agains NL teams. He even said their style of play doesn't bode well agains NL teams. I take that to mean, he can't stack up against NL managers when it comes down to tactical managing.
As far as increasing the roster to 26, have you not been paying attention to what's going on, Alex? They're desperately trying to cut payroll, not increase it. All adding a 26th player to each roster would do, is add another 500 grand to the payroll. Not going to happen - ever! Even if they ok'd it, very few teams would take advantage of it.
The only teams that would take advantage of this situation would be the Yankees and maybe the Red Sox and Rangers. Boy, that's just what this league needs, another advantage for the Yankees.
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January 20th, 2002, 12:32 AM
#16
HB Forum Moderator
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Alex:
I agree that it bugs the owners that the DH costs them more in salary, so adding another player would REALLY bug them...however, the revolving door to the minors, doesn't that cost a bunch of money also?
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Well, doesn't this cost money? Which league has more call-ups, I bet it's the American League.
Also, which league had more pitching injuries this past season?
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Alex
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